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Katy Carl's avatar

Trevor, I love this, and really enjoyed listening to y'all's conversation. As we've probably talked about at some point, I walked the opposite path (from O'Connor to Girard) and found Girard oddly liberating: because he helped me understand how and why, that is by what interior logic, my characters were investing various material realities with complex symbolic meanings they *didn't* have, and thereby missing out on other, complex meanings the things in themselves *actually might* have. He showed me how envy and deviated transcendence lead to blindness and, more than that, how our characters (and by extension, our selves) might get free -- which for me was a tremendous impetus to get back to the page, back to work.

Anyway I'd love to hear this O'Connor-Girard relationship explored further sometime: while envy doesn't seem too alive or operative in her work (certainly erotic jealousy and triangular desire are almost absent or, when present, in some way twisted from the typical French paradigm), still, very many of her people are suffering from some form of deviated transcendence, often an atypical form.

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a. natasha joukovsky's avatar

“the humble materials of fiction”…gotta wonder how much of my failure to succumb to DDN-paralysis is tied to my lack of novelistic humility—both in the sense that I have always deemed it among the highest forms of art (certainly above criticism!) and…that I am a raging narcissist?

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